Mike Vizard talks with Joseph Perry, advanced services lead for Arcova, about why OpenClaw and similar AI agents are creating new shadow IT and data-access risks. Perry explains why blanket bans rarely work, arguing that security teams need approved AI paths, sandboxing, role-based access, just-in-time permissions and clear limits on what agents can reach. The conversation also examines AI agent identity, zero trust, guardrails, malicious clones, regulatory gaps, human oversight and why security leaders need to be skeptical users of AI rather than uninformed blockers.