Work has to move — but it also has to matter. Phil Clark, the former VP Engineering at Parchment (acquired by Instructure for $835M in 2024) and founder of RYU Advisory & Media, joins Alan Shimel on TechStrong TV to preview his Flowtopia 2026 talk: "Flow is necessary but not sufficient. Why leadership choices determine whether flow and realization survive." Phil walks Alan through a 25-year journey from late-90s software engineer to leading nine acquisitions through hypergrowth, and why he calls Parchment his PhD in transformation — moving from waterfall and ITIL into agile, DevOps, value stream management, and now AI. Phil makes the case that Agile, DevOps, VSM, and even AI can all improve flow, but leadership is what determines whether that flow becomes real business outcomes. He and Alan dig into the difference between output and outcomes, why "overproduction" is still waste, the leadership track at Flowtopia (June 24), and why every leader — himself included — has to relearn the game in the AI era.