We always hear about the cloud and AI, but the truth is that the mainframe is still the beating heart of the global financial system, and it isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Alan sat down with Robin Macfarlane, President and CEO of RR Mac Associates, to discuss the realities of mainframe modernization and how we can bring the next generation of developers into the fold using modern DevOps tooling like Git and VS Code without losing decades of critical legacy knowledge. It's a fascinating conversation about balancing the unmatched reliability of "big iron" with the inevitable push toward agile pipelines and cautious AI adoption, so you definitely want to check this one out.