Jimmy White, VP of AI at F5, joins Alan Shimel on Techstrong.TV to discuss the rise of "shadow AI" — the AI equivalent of shadow IT, where employees adopt AI tools and agents that IT and security teams never approved and can't see.

Jimmy traces his path from Mandiant to Qualtrics to founding CalypsoAI (acquired by F5 last year), and explains how F5 is approaching AI security from every angle: guardrails to defend against attacks, red teaming to find new vulnerabilities, and auto-remediation capabilities unveiled at RSA this year. He also details F5's recent acquisition of SurePath for next-generation AI discovery — closing the "unknown unknowns" gap that most enterprises face.

The conversation also covers a costly but common mistake: using the most powerful (and expensive) AI models for simple tasks, driving up token costs unnecessarily. Jimmy closes with practical advice for organizations just starting their AI security journey — start with a focused pilot before scaling.